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Patrick Stewart to star in new Star Trek TV series

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Trunkz Jr

With someone so old I have a feeling they might kill him off early or something, but good to see him back. 

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Sovereign
7 hours ago, Trunkz Jr said:

With someone so old I have a feeling they might kill him off early or something, but good to see him back. 

I expect they'll have to do it at some point due to his age (78 years old!). Hopefully we can get a few good seasons out of Jean-Luc Picard.

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SunderCats

This makes me both sad and happy.  Sad to see such an Icon so damn old.  It's painfully humbling.  Happy that after all these years we get so see the Captain return!

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Trunkz Jr

They should let him go out in style, sit him in the middle of the road and open the cages

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Donkey

Oh my god. I didnt know he's 78 years old. Only knew him in Xmen tho. I've been wanting to get into star trek but i dont know where to start.

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SunderCats

Start at the beginning.

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Donkey
On 8/6/2018 at 3:16 AM, SunderCats said:

Start at the beginning.

Whats the name of the series?

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@Donkey If you want them in chronological order.

Star Trek: Enterprise
Star Trek: Discovery
Star Trek: The Original Series
Star Trek : The Animated Series
Original Star Trek Movies
Star Trek: The Next Generation
Next Generation Movies
Star Trek: Deep Space Nine
Star Trek: Voyager
THEN you switch over to the Kelvin Timeline.  All of which are movies:
Start Trek (Release Date 2009)
Star Trek: Into Darkness
Star Trek: Beyond

That's a substantial list.  Most are good, some are great, few are bad.  You are not required by any means to watch these in order (Aside from the movies) as they stand on their own.  However, there are throwbacks that you simply wont understand or even recognize if you don't watch them in order.  But it's not something that would ruin it for you.  This is a LOT of content and most of it is very dated by now.  But if your not the type of person that ingests Michel Bay movies like heroin and instead can look past the dated material there is a lot of compelling space drama waiting for you.

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Donkey

@SunderCats Thank you for this list. I'll start right away. I'll probably skip the animated series tho.

 

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Not a problem.  Hell I skipped the animated series myself.  It's tough to get through and you dont really miss anything other than extra episodes of the original series if anything.  I also skipped through a lot of Enterprise.  It was probably my least favorite Star Trek series.  But Ta'pol is a total babe so it's worth watching her at least ROFL.  ( I sounded like a perv just then)  Also to note.  Star Trek: Discovery (The newest series to date) Takes place in multiple timelines as it's based on the creation of Section 31 (Which you'll learn about) and Time Travel.

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0xygenthief

Discovery shouldn't even be included in the ST universe.  I love Star Trek, hell I even got my 11 year old daughter hooked on Star Trek.  But there is no way in hell she will watch Discovery until she is 18 or older.  Far too many adult themes going on.  

Star Trek has always been on the liberal/socialist side of the fence, I get that and still love it.  However, Discovery took the fine line between liberal fantasy and reality and said "screw that, we're going full retard, Klingon rape/torture scenes FTW"!

Really not looking forward to Tarantino screwing up the next movie either... 

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They had plenty of rape and debauchery in other series.  They just weren't so "Game of thrones" with it. I personally enjoyed the brutality.  It's visceral and applies a better understanding of the truth.  The universe is vast and perverse regardless of the values of the Federation.  Implying that the work of fiction should not be allowed its namesake because of your values seems a bit harsh though.  I found it to be very "Star Trek".  About the only thing I didn't much care for was the complete alteration of Klingons. (I don't want to give too much away here)  But when you're dealing with alternate timelines everything goes out the window.  I need'nt remind you of the Terran Empire....

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0xygenthief

I suppose you have a point but for a lot of people it is too "Game of Thrones", as you put it.  I can't let my daughter watch it any more than I could let her watch Game of Thrones, again great parallel.  I really enjoy connecting with my kids with old shows that I grew up with.  Do you know how hard it is to find a 7 of 9 Halloween costume for an 10 year old considering it has been 15+ years since Voyager was a thing? 

The orignal Star Trek had an agenda: multi-culturism.  TNG was actually about exploration.  DS9 was mostly political, I liked it especially but my daughter not so much.  Voyager was a modern day incarnation of Homer's Odyessy, likely why it is my daughters favorite.  Enterprise was great T&A for us adults but had little value for my daughter.

When Discovery first aired we watched it with my daughter, I was super excited to have a shared experience like that with her.  The gore-fest that we witnessed ruined that moment.  Questions like "Why would they show the knife going through her chest like that" were coming out of my daughters mouth/mind for weeks following.  She hasn't seen another episode as a result.

This is the same as if they made a Goonies part 2 only instead of the kids escaping all the kids are skinned alive while the bad guys used their skin to bag the treasure and exfil.  Oh and WTF is up with the FAT/UGLY red-haired co-star?  Seriously?  It's like they said, "hey T&A is bad, that's why Enterprise didn't do so well... lets go the completely opposite direction and get the fattest, ugliest, most annoying character ever!"

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